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Innovation Files: Where Tech Meets Public Policy

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Explore the intersection of technology, innovation, and public policy with the world’s leading think tank for science and tech policy. ITIF’s Innovation Files podcast serves up expert interviews, insights, and commentary on topics ranging from the broad economics of innovation to specific policy and regulatory questions about new technologies. Expect to hear some unconventional wisdom.
September 11, 2023
Podcast: ‘Regulation by Outrage’ Is a Detriment to Emerging Technologies, With Patrick Grady
Policy regarding new technologies can be reactionary, confused, and focused on the wrong things.
August 7, 2023
Podcast: Counterfeiting Is a Crime Against Innovation, With Kebharu Smith
Counterfeiting—one of the oldest, simplest crimes—has only continued to evolve as technology has grown more complex.
July 17, 2023
Podcast: The Complicated Evolution of Information, With Jim Cortada
Over the past 150 years, humanity has generated an unprecedented amount and variety of information, surpassing the cumulative knowledge of previous eras.
June 5, 2023
Podcast: Why Societal Trust Is Imperative For Innovation, With David Moschella
Looking ahead to the technological challenges and opportunities of the next decade, social trust will be more important than ever for the tech industry.
May 15, 2023
Podcast: Deciphering the World of Data, With George Sciadas
A data-driven world raises the stakes for numeric literacy.
April 3, 2023
Podcast: Containing China While Rebuilding the United States, With Jonathan Ward
America can’t just pick up speed to beat China economically; it needs to slow down China, too, because there’s no use in accelerating when your adversary is along for the ride.
March 6, 2023
Podcast: The Future of Smart Cities in a Data-Driven Society, With Jonathan Reichental
To improve quality of life for as many people as possible, the places to start are cities. Rob and Jackie sat down with multiple award-winning technology and business leader Jonathan Reichental to discuss why the United States is falling behind other countries in the “smart city” movement and why it matters in a data-driven world.
February 13, 2023
Podcast: Should Section 230 Cover Algorithms? What’s at Stake in Gonzalez v. Google, With Ashley Johnson
Google doesn’t create terrorist propaganda videos, doesn’t allow them on YouTube, and takes them down as fast as it can when extremist groups post them anyway. But a question now before the Supreme Court is whether Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act protects Google and other platform operators from liability if their algorithms end up spreading harmful content.
January 23, 2023
Podcast: Microchips Are the New Oil, With Chris Miller
Semiconductors are arguably the most important core technology in the modern world. You can’t fully understand the current state of politics, economics, or technology until you consider the role they play. Rob and Jackie sat down with economic historian Chris Miller to discuss the extent to which microchips are the new oil.
December 15, 2022
Podcast: Will a Western “NATO for Tech” Work? (Atkinson Guest Appearance on ‘What China Wants’)
ITIF’s Rob Atkinson appears on the podcast What China Wants by Sam Olsen to talk through the realities of British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s proposal to create a “NATO for Tech” to counter Chinese influence.